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Consultas generales para viajar a Kenia, dudas sobre itinerarios y Safaris por Masai Mara, Amboseli, Lago Nakuru, Aberdares, Tsavo, Naivasha, Samburu, subida al Monte Kenia, isla de Lamu, ver Nairobi, Mombasa, Malindi, lago Victoria, lago Turkana...
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Hola Forer@s!
Os quería hacer una consulta
Estamos preparando un safari de 11 días para Kenia-Tanzania en Agosto
Hemos solicitado presupuestos para ir en privado, es decir en 4x4 o jeep
Quizás seamos 7 porque hay otra persona interesada en venir con nosotros.
Mi pregunta es si al ser 7 personas no podremos ir en este tipo de vehículo. ¿De cuantas plazas puede ser???
¿Sale más caro?
O se ha de viajar en matatu? que creo que es más incómodo y menos ágil
Por favor darme vuestra opinión.
Muchas gracias!!!
7 no cabeis en un jeep... Tendrian que ser en dos.
El matatu es menos ágil, pero es lo suficientemente agil para moverse casi por los mismos sitios. No tiene que ser mas incomodo. Puede ser mas comodo, porque es mas espacioso.
Si vais 4 en un jeep, uno va atrás en medio y las cosas suelen suceder en un lateral, con lo que el tercero no tiene por donde ver...
En un matatu si van dos personas por fila, pueden moverse mejor y ven a lado y lado.
Hola!!!
Muchas gracias por vuestras respuestas!
Quería comentaros que finalmente somos 8 Personas para hacer el safari por kenia y Tanzania.
Queremos ir todos juntos en un vehículo.
En kenia nos ofrecen un minivan 4*4 y en Tanzania un llandrover o landcruiser extendido.
En Tanzania es donde hay mas problemas en ir en un sólo vehículo ya que algunas agencias nos ofrecen 2 coches 4*4.
Alguien ha ido 8 personas en este tipo de vehículos o los ha visto? Es factible?
Si vamos en dos vamos mas anchos pero la gracia es disfrutar todos juntos del safari y mas cuando hay tanto coche...
Por otro lado si pinchamos o se estropea el motor o lo que sea, al ir dos coches es más probable que pase algo y tengamos q esperar uno al otro...
Laura piensa también en las maletas que aunq entrais los 8 más en guia en el matatu teneis q meter 8 maletas o más y las mochilas que lleveis para el viaje con alguna chaqueta para cuando refresca por la mañana y la camara y todo eso
¿qué os parece este itinerario que me ha ofrecido una agencia local?. Agradecería cualquier comentario!
Llevo un mes pidiendo presupuestos a diferentes agencias locales y no me decido!. Cualquier consejo será bienvenido!
Day 1: 9th August 2014 : Nairobi-Amboseli.
Depart from Nairobi in the morning and drive South-wards to Namanga
Which is the Kenya-Tanzania border arriving in Amboseli for lunch
Followed by game-drive until 6.30 pm Dinner and overnight at the
Campsite.
Day 2: 10th August 2014 : Amboseli
Have your breakfast then proceed for a full day of game viewing in the
Park. Amboseli National Park is located at the foot of Mt.
Kilimanjaro, Africa's highest mountain. The snows of the mountain form
A majestic backdrop to one of Kenya's most popular spectacular
Displays of wildlife - lion, elephant, leopard, rhino, cheetah,
Buffalo and host of plains game, creating Kenya's most sought after
Photographer's paradise. The park used to be known for its greener
Vegetation which was later damaged by the huge population of huge
Elephants. Meals and overnight at the camp.
Day 3: 11th August 2014 : Amboseli-Lake Naivasha
After breakfasst, depart for Lake Naivasha with your lunch being
Served en route, your arrival in Naivasha will be in the afternoon
Where by you will proceed for the game drive at the hell’s gate, here
You are capable of riding the bicycle amongst the wild animals without
Any harm, boat riding, swimming, bird-watching and the rest as you bid
Bye to the hippos. Dinner and overnight at the a budget hotel.
Day 4: 12th August 2014 : Lake Naivasha- Lake Bogoria
After breakfast, leave Lake Naivasha with lunch en route to Lake
Bogoria, this is a saline, alkaline lake that lies in a volcanic in a
Half-graben basin south of Kenya, the lake had been known in the past
As the jewel of Rift Valley, the most beautiful view in Africa which
Is set in the acacia surroundings of the floor of the great rift
Valley, view the lesser flamingoes which are of the larger population
In this lake. Dinner and overnight at the camp or budget hotel.
Day 5: 13th August 2014 : Lake Bogoria- Nakuru
Have your breakfast followed by the departure for Lake Nakuru with
Game drive en route, you will arrive in Nakuru for lunch in the hotel
As you proceed for the afternoon game drive in Lake Nakuru which is
Known for its big five excluding the Elephants, this is the only park
Where you will see both the white and the black flamingoes, the lake
Is as well known as the birds sanctuary, be back to the hotel for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 6: 14th August 2014 : Lake Nakuru- Masai Mara
After breakfast, depart for Masai mara arriving in time for lunch at
The Enchoro Wildlife Camp followed by an afternoon game viewing to see
The many animals that inhabit this unique park, return to camp for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 7: 15th August 2014 : Masai mara
After breakfast, full day spent game viewing a cross the rich,
Tree-studded grassland and rolling hills. The famous mara is renowned
For its great herds of plain game, black-maned lions, leopard and
Cheetah but also contains numerous elephant and virtually every type
Of wildlife to be found in Kenya, have your lunch served at the mara
River which is the scene for annual migration of both the zebras and
Wildebeests, return to the camp for dinner and overnight.
Day 8: 16th August 2014 : Masai mara-Nairobi
Proceed for the pre breakfast morning game drive in the park followed
By late breakfast at the camp as you depart for Nairobi where your
Journey will end with the basket full of sweetest memories to share
With others back home.
Para mi gusto demasiados lagos, y os falta Samburu y más tiempo en Masai Mara. Yo para el tiempo que vais me limitaría a Samburu y Mara, y vería algún lago de camino en todo caso, pero eso también va en gustos.
¿qué os parece este itinerario que me ha ofrecido una agencia local?. Agradecería cualquier comentario!
Llevo un mes pidiendo presupuestos a diferentes agencias locales y no me decido!. Cualquier consejo será bienvenido!
Day 1: 9th August 2014 : Nairobi-Amboseli.
Depart from Nairobi in the morning and drive South-wards to Namanga
Which is the Kenya-Tanzania border arriving in Amboseli for lunch
Followed by game-drive until 6.30 pm Dinner and overnight at the
Campsite.
Day 2: 10th August 2014 : Amboseli
Have your breakfast then proceed for a full day of game viewing in the
Park. Amboseli National Park is located at the foot of Mt.
Kilimanjaro, Africa's highest mountain. The snows of the mountain form
A majestic backdrop to one of Kenya's most popular spectacular
Displays of wildlife - lion, elephant, leopard, rhino, cheetah,
Buffalo and host of plains game, creating Kenya's most sought after
Photographer's paradise. The park used to be known for its greener
Vegetation which was later damaged by the huge population of huge
Elephants. Meals and overnight at the camp.
Day 3: 11th August 2014 : Amboseli-Lake Naivasha
After breakfasst, depart for Lake Naivasha with your lunch being
Served en route, your arrival in Naivasha will be in the afternoon
Where by you will proceed for the game drive at the hell’s gate, here
You are capable of riding the bicycle amongst the wild animals without
Any harm, boat riding, swimming, bird-watching and the rest as you bid
Bye to the hippos. Dinner and overnight at the a budget hotel.
Day 4: 12th August 2014 : Lake Naivasha- Lake Bogoria
After breakfast, leave Lake Naivasha with lunch en route to Lake
Bogoria, this is a saline, alkaline lake that lies in a volcanic in a
Half-graben basin south of Kenya, the lake had been known in the past
As the jewel of Rift Valley, the most beautiful view in Africa which
Is set in the acacia surroundings of the floor of the great rift
Valley, view the lesser flamingoes which are of the larger population
In this lake. Dinner and overnight at the camp or budget hotel.
Day 5: 13th August 2014 : Lake Bogoria- Nakuru
Have your breakfast followed by the departure for Lake Nakuru with
Game drive en route, you will arrive in Nakuru for lunch in the hotel
As you proceed for the afternoon game drive in Lake Nakuru which is
Known for its big five excluding the Elephants, this is the only park
Where you will see both the white and the black flamingoes, the lake
Is as well known as the birds sanctuary, be back to the hotel for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 6: 14th August 2014 : Lake Nakuru- Masai Mara
After breakfast, depart for Masai mara arriving in time for lunch at
The Enchoro Wildlife Camp followed by an afternoon game viewing to see
The many animals that inhabit this unique park, return to camp for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 7: 15th August 2014 : Masai mara
After breakfast, full day spent game viewing a cross the rich,
Tree-studded grassland and rolling hills. The famous mara is renowned
For its great herds of plain game, black-maned lions, leopard and
Cheetah but also contains numerous elephant and virtually every type
Of wildlife to be found in Kenya, have your lunch served at the mara
River which is the scene for annual migration of both the zebras and
Wildebeests, return to the camp for dinner and overnight.
Day 8: 16th August 2014 : Masai mara-Nairobi
Proceed for the pre breakfast morning game drive in the park followed
By late breakfast at the camp as you depart for Nairobi where your
Journey will end with the basket full of sweetest memories to share
With others back home.
Si, yo veo también poco tiempo en Masai Mara y muchos lagos y añadiría Samburu. Si te sirve de consejo yo hice esto (y me hubiese quedado un diía más en Masai Mara):
Day 1:19/08/11:- Nairobi - Samburu
Day 2:20/08/11:- Samburu
Day 3:21/08/11:- Samburu -Aberdares
Day 4:22/08/11:- Aberdares -L.Nakuru
Day 5:23/08/11:- L.Nakuru-Mara
Day 6:24/08/11:- Masai Mara
Day 7:25/08/11:- Masai Mara- Nairobi
Además especificaria hacer game drives a toidas horas (quiero decir que si llegas al mediodia, hacer uno por la tarde) A la mañana siguiente hacer uno antes de desayunar y los otros el resto del día según os convenga.
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De todos modos, estás segura que quieres hacer ese safari con agencia? Por libre (alquilando un coche y los alojamientos por tu cuenta) te saldría mucho mejor (por el aprovechamiento del tiempo en los parques, sobretodo). La ruta que téneis en mente es muy sencilla y no hay nada de complicación.
Yo no recomiendo hacerlo por libre. Para empezar, en algunos parques tienes que ir obligatoriamente acompañado por un nativo masai, además los coches que llevan las agencias tienen radio y se van comunicando para decir donde se pueden ver animales. Los buenos guías conocen los parques y saben dónde ir.
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yo no recomiendo hacerlo por libre. Para empezar, en algunos parques tienes que ir obligatoriamente acompañado por un nativo masai, además los coches que llevan las agencias tienen radio y se van comunicando para decir donde se pueden ver animales. Los buenos guías conocen los parques y saben dónde ir.
Tres cosas:
- Parques que sea obligatorio ir con guía no encontré ninguno en Kenia. ¿Puedes decirme en qué parques es obligatorio ir con guía?
- He ido con agencia y por libre y la experiencia no varía mucho de una forma a otra (número de avistamientos, en calidad y cantidad). Sin embargo, por libre estás mucho más tiempo dentro del parque, aprovechas mejor el tiempo y eliges en todo momento lo que hacer sin que nadie trate de dirigirte.
- "Los buenos guías" son muy pocos y por lo general, a no ser que te vayas a tours muy, muy caros, tendrás guías mediocres.
Esto es todo basado en mi experiencia, por supuesto.
En el Mara hay una zona en la que se tiene que ir acompañados por un masai, no en todo en parque pero sí en una amplia zona.
En lo referente a ir por libre, a mi me gusta viajar por libre, pero en este caso en particular yo prefiero y recomiendo ir con guía, pero es una opinión personal basada en mi experiencia.
No pretendo discutir si una opción es mejor o peor en términos absolutos, tan sólo digo que en mi opinión personal, se aprovecha mejor el viaje con un buen guía.
Hola
Yo lo hice por mi cuenta alquilando 4x4 y ningun problema. Todo el mundo intenta meterte miedo para que compres un paquete completo, pero alquilar coche y dormir en camping en los parques es toda una aventura.
Te puedes plantear coger 1 guia allí mismo el primer día, especialmente en masai mara que es muy extenso, pero en cuanto ves como funciona ningun problema. Incluso parabamos a preguntar a los guias donde habia animales y respondian amablemente. Mas que guias la mayoria son choferes con radio que se van avisando.
En samburu y amboselli no hace falta guia, con estar un poco atento y ver donde van las vans suficiente.
Si estas muchos días, enseguida vas a ver los animales, especialmente en mara, esta bien combinarlo con un poco de aventura.
Un saludo
¿qué os parece este itinerario que me ha ofrecido una agencia local?. Agradecería cualquier comentario!
Llevo un mes pidiendo presupuestos a diferentes agencias locales y no me decido!. Cualquier consejo será bienvenido!
Day 1: 9th August 2014 : Nairobi-Amboseli.
Depart from Nairobi in the morning and drive South-wards to Namanga
Which is the Kenya-Tanzania border arriving in Amboseli for lunch
Followed by game-drive until 6.30 pm Dinner and overnight at the
Campsite.
Day 2: 10th August 2014 : Amboseli
Have your breakfast then proceed for a full day of game viewing in the
Park. Amboseli National Park is located at the foot of Mt.
Kilimanjaro, Africa's highest mountain. The snows of the mountain form
A majestic backdrop to one of Kenya's most popular spectacular
Displays of wildlife - lion, elephant, leopard, rhino, cheetah,
Buffalo and host of plains game, creating Kenya's most sought after
Photographer's paradise. The park used to be known for its greener
Vegetation which was later damaged by the huge population of huge
Elephants. Meals and overnight at the camp.
Day 3: 11th August 2014 : Amboseli-Lake Naivasha
After breakfasst, depart for Lake Naivasha with your lunch being
Served en route, your arrival in Naivasha will be in the afternoon
Where by you will proceed for the game drive at the hell’s gate, here
You are capable of riding the bicycle amongst the wild animals without
Any harm, boat riding, swimming, bird-watching and the rest as you bid
Bye to the hippos. Dinner and overnight at the a budget hotel.
Day 4: 12th August 2014 : Lake Naivasha- Lake Bogoria
After breakfast, leave Lake Naivasha with lunch en route to Lake
Bogoria, this is a saline, alkaline lake that lies in a volcanic in a
Half-graben basin south of Kenya, the lake had been known in the past
As the jewel of Rift Valley, the most beautiful view in Africa which
Is set in the acacia surroundings of the floor of the great rift
Valley, view the lesser flamingoes which are of the larger population
In this lake. Dinner and overnight at the camp or budget hotel.
Day 5: 13th August 2014 : Lake Bogoria- Nakuru
Have your breakfast followed by the departure for Lake Nakuru with
Game drive en route, you will arrive in Nakuru for lunch in the hotel
As you proceed for the afternoon game drive in Lake Nakuru which is
Known for its big five excluding the Elephants, this is the only park
Where you will see both the white and the black flamingoes, the lake
Is as well known as the birds sanctuary, be back to the hotel for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 6: 14th August 2014 : Lake Nakuru- Masai Mara
After breakfast, depart for Masai mara arriving in time for lunch at
The Enchoro Wildlife Camp followed by an afternoon game viewing to see
The many animals that inhabit this unique park, return to camp for
Dinner and overnight.
Day 7: 15th August 2014 : Masai mara
After breakfast, full day spent game viewing a cross the rich,
Tree-studded grassland and rolling hills. The famous mara is renowned
For its great herds of plain game, black-maned lions, leopard and
Cheetah but also contains numerous elephant and virtually every type
Of wildlife to be found in Kenya, have your lunch served at the mara
River which is the scene for annual migration of both the zebras and
Wildebeests, return to the camp for dinner and overnight.
Day 8: 16th August 2014 : Masai mara-Nairobi
Proceed for the pre breakfast morning game drive in the park followed
By late breakfast at the camp as you depart for Nairobi where your
Journey will end with the basket full of sweetest memories to share
With others back home.